I have a customer who's cart has been deleting orders incorrectly. I
backed up and restored the database from the remote server to my local.
Would like to restore to point in time before the delete operation.
>From various sources this is the script I'm using:
BACKUP LOG plebesummercom
TO disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
WITH NORECOVERY, No_truncate
Go
RESTORE DATABASE plebesummercom
FROM disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\dbbu080106\8_1_2006_5_30_42_PM.bak'
WITH NORECOVERY;
GO
RESTORE LOG [plebesummercom]
FROM DISK = N'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
WITH FILE = 1, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10, STOPAT = N'07/16/2006
11:13:04'
GO
Ok, no errrors are thrown, but when I select from a table, I'm still
finding orders with dates past July 16. Am I trying to do something not
allowed? Both the database bu and the log bu contain transactions and
data through August 2nd. Can someone point me in the right direction?Why are you using the NOUNLOAD option when recovering from a file?
Also,
What is the "N" right before the date/time in your STOPAT ?
Your first statement here says to backup log? I think you would want:
RESTORE DATABASE
(FROM ...)
WITH NORECOVERY
--this one for every full log you want to roll in:
RESTORE LOG
(FROM ...)
WITH NORECOVERY
RESTORE LOG
(FROM ...)
WITH RECOVERY, STOPAT = 'Date/time'
Also,
check out the RESTORE topic in Books Online.
I hope this is helpful.
medusa wrote:
> I have a customer who's cart has been deleting orders incorrectly. I
> backed up and restored the database from the remote server to my local.
> Would like to restore to point in time before the delete operation.
> >From various sources this is the script I'm using:
> BACKUP LOG plebesummercom
> TO disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
> WITH NORECOVERY, No_truncate
> Go
> RESTORE DATABASE plebesummercom
> FROM disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\dbbu080106\8_1_2006_5_30_42_PM.bak'
> WITH NORECOVERY;
> GO
> RESTORE LOG [plebesummercom]
> FROM DISK = N'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
> WITH FILE = 1, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10, STOPAT = N'07/16/2006
> 11:13:04'
> GO
> Ok, no errrors are thrown, but when I select from a table, I'm still
> finding orders with dates past July 16. Am I trying to do something not
> allowed? Both the database bu and the log bu contain transactions and
> data through August 2nd. Can someone point me in the right direction?|||Well, that was the latest round of code. The n is put in there if you
tell management studio to script the action. The backup log is in there
because if it's not an error is thrown about not backing up the log
tail. Here, this doesn't work either--contains transactions through Aug
2:
BACKUP LOG plebesummercom
TO disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
WITH NORECOVERY, No_truncate
Go
RESTORE DATABASE plebesummercom
FROM disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\dbbu080106\8_1_2006_5_30_42_PM.bak'
WITH NORECOVERY;
GO
RESTORE LOG [plebesummercom]
FROM DISK ='C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
WITH FILE = 1, STOPAT = '07/16/2006 11:13:04'
GO
SGCSNA wrote:
> Why are you using the NOUNLOAD option when recovering from a file?
> Also,
> What is the "N" right before the date/time in your STOPAT ?
> Your first statement here says to backup log? I think you would want:
> RESTORE DATABASE
> (FROM ...)
> WITH NORECOVERY
> --this one for every full log you want to roll in:
> RESTORE LOG
> (FROM ...)
> WITH NORECOVERY
> RESTORE LOG
> (FROM ...)
> WITH RECOVERY, STOPAT = 'Date/time'
> Also,
> check out the RESTORE topic in Books Online.
> I hope this is helpful.
>
> medusa wrote:
> > I have a customer who's cart has been deleting orders incorrectly. I
> > backed up and restored the database from the remote server to my local.
> > Would like to restore to point in time before the delete operation.
> > >From various sources this is the script I'm using:
> >
> > BACKUP LOG plebesummercom
> > TO disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
> > WITH NORECOVERY, No_truncate
> > Go
> > RESTORE DATABASE plebesummercom
> > FROM disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\dbbu080106\8_1_2006_5_30_42_PM.bak'
> > WITH NORECOVERY;
> > GO
> >
> > RESTORE LOG [plebesummercom]
> > FROM DISK = N'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
> >
> > WITH FILE = 1, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10, STOPAT = N'07/16/2006
> > 11:13:04'
> > GO
> >
> > Ok, no errrors are thrown, but when I select from a table, I'm still
> > finding orders with dates past July 16. Am I trying to do something not
> > allowed? Both the database bu and the log bu contain transactions and
> > data through August 2nd. Can someone point me in the right direction?|||Are you restoring from a full backup that falls *before* your STOPAT
date and all of the subsequent logs, up to the one that contains the
STOPAT date?
medusa wrote:
> Well, that was the latest round of code. The n is put in there if you
> tell management studio to script the action. The backup log is in there
> because if it's not an error is thrown about not backing up the log
> tail. Here, this doesn't work either--contains transactions through Aug
> 2:
> BACKUP LOG plebesummercom
> TO disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
> WITH NORECOVERY, No_truncate
> Go
> RESTORE DATABASE plebesummercom
> FROM disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\dbbu080106\8_1_2006_5_30_42_PM.bak'
> WITH NORECOVERY;
> GO
> RESTORE LOG [plebesummercom]
> FROM DISK ='C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
> WITH FILE = 1, STOPAT = '07/16/2006 11:13:04'
> GO
>
> SGCSNA wrote:
> > Why are you using the NOUNLOAD option when recovering from a file?
> >
> > Also,
> > What is the "N" right before the date/time in your STOPAT ?
> >
> > Your first statement here says to backup log? I think you would want:
> >
> > RESTORE DATABASE
> > (FROM ...)
> > WITH NORECOVERY
> >
> > --this one for every full log you want to roll in:
> > RESTORE LOG
> > (FROM ...)
> > WITH NORECOVERY
> >
> > RESTORE LOG
> > (FROM ...)
> > WITH RECOVERY, STOPAT = 'Date/time'
> >
> > Also,
> >
> > check out the RESTORE topic in Books Online.
> >
> > I hope this is helpful.
> >
> >
> > medusa wrote:
> > > I have a customer who's cart has been deleting orders incorrectly. I
> > > backed up and restored the database from the remote server to my local.
> > > Would like to restore to point in time before the delete operation.
> > > >From various sources this is the script I'm using:
> > >
> > > BACKUP LOG plebesummercom
> > > TO disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
> > > WITH NORECOVERY, No_truncate
> > > Go
> > > RESTORE DATABASE plebesummercom
> > > FROM disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\dbbu080106\8_1_2006_5_30_42_PM.bak'
> > > WITH NORECOVERY;
> > > GO
> > >
> > > RESTORE LOG [plebesummercom]
> > > FROM DISK = N'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
> > >
> > > WITH FILE = 1, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10, STOPAT = N'07/16/2006
> > > 11:13:04'
> > > GO
> > >
> > > Ok, no errrors are thrown, but when I select from a table, I'm still
> > > finding orders with dates past July 16. Am I trying to do something not
> > > allowed? Both the database bu and the log bu contain transactions and
> > > data through August 2nd. Can someone point me in the right direction?|||The full backup goes through Aug 2. I want to stop at July 16.
SGCSNA wrote:
> Are you restoring from a full backup that falls *before* your STOPAT
> date and all of the subsequent logs, up to the one that contains the
> STOPAT date?
> medusa wrote:
> > Well, that was the latest round of code. The n is put in there if you
> > tell management studio to script the action. The backup log is in there
> > because if it's not an error is thrown about not backing up the log
> > tail. Here, this doesn't work either--contains transactions through Aug
> > 2:
> >
> > BACKUP LOG plebesummercom
> > TO disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
> > WITH NORECOVERY, No_truncate
> > Go
> > RESTORE DATABASE plebesummercom
> > FROM disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\dbbu080106\8_1_2006_5_30_42_PM.bak'
> > WITH NORECOVERY;
> > GO
> >
> > RESTORE LOG [plebesummercom]
> > FROM DISK ='C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
> >
> > WITH FILE = 1, STOPAT = '07/16/2006 11:13:04'
> > GO
> >
> >
> > SGCSNA wrote:
> > > Why are you using the NOUNLOAD option when recovering from a file?
> > >
> > > Also,
> > > What is the "N" right before the date/time in your STOPAT ?
> > >
> > > Your first statement here says to backup log? I think you would want:
> > >
> > > RESTORE DATABASE
> > > (FROM ...)
> > > WITH NORECOVERY
> > >
> > > --this one for every full log you want to roll in:
> > > RESTORE LOG
> > > (FROM ...)
> > > WITH NORECOVERY
> > >
> > > RESTORE LOG
> > > (FROM ...)
> > > WITH RECOVERY, STOPAT = 'Date/time'
> > >
> > > Also,
> > >
> > > check out the RESTORE topic in Books Online.
> > >
> > > I hope this is helpful.
> > >
> > >
> > > medusa wrote:
> > > > I have a customer who's cart has been deleting orders incorrectly. I
> > > > backed up and restored the database from the remote server to my local.
> > > > Would like to restore to point in time before the delete operation.
> > > > >From various sources this is the script I'm using:
> > > >
> > > > BACKUP LOG plebesummercom
> > > > TO disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > > > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
> > > > WITH NORECOVERY, No_truncate
> > > > Go
> > > > RESTORE DATABASE plebesummercom
> > > > FROM disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > > > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\dbbu080106\8_1_2006_5_30_42_PM.bak'
> > > > WITH NORECOVERY;
> > > > GO
> > > >
> > > > RESTORE LOG [plebesummercom]
> > > > FROM DISK = N'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > > > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
> > > >
> > > > WITH FILE = 1, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10, STOPAT = N'07/16/2006
> > > > 11:13:04'
> > > > GO
> > > >
> > > > Ok, no errrors are thrown, but when I select from a table, I'm still
> > > > finding orders with dates past July 16. Am I trying to do something not
> > > > allowed? Both the database bu and the log bu contain transactions and
> > > > data through August 2nd. Can someone point me in the right direction?|||STOPAT only works with Transaction Log Backups, so you would need a
full backup from sometime before the time you want on July 16th and the
subsequent log backups through the time you want on 7/16.
medusa wrote:
> The full backup goes through Aug 2. I want to stop at July 16.
> SGCSNA wrote:
> > Are you restoring from a full backup that falls *before* your STOPAT
> > date and all of the subsequent logs, up to the one that contains the
> > STOPAT date?
> > medusa wrote:
> > > Well, that was the latest round of code. The n is put in there if you
> > > tell management studio to script the action. The backup log is in there
> > > because if it's not an error is thrown about not backing up the log
> > > tail. Here, this doesn't work either--contains transactions through Aug
> > > 2:
> > >
> > > BACKUP LOG plebesummercom
> > > TO disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
> > > WITH NORECOVERY, No_truncate
> > > Go
> > > RESTORE DATABASE plebesummercom
> > > FROM disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\dbbu080106\8_1_2006_5_30_42_PM.bak'
> > > WITH NORECOVERY;
> > > GO
> > >
> > > RESTORE LOG [plebesummercom]
> > > FROM DISK ='C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
> > >
> > > WITH FILE = 1, STOPAT = '07/16/2006 11:13:04'
> > > GO
> > >
> > >
> > > SGCSNA wrote:
> > > > Why are you using the NOUNLOAD option when recovering from a file?
> > > >
> > > > Also,
> > > > What is the "N" right before the date/time in your STOPAT ?
> > > >
> > > > Your first statement here says to backup log? I think you would want:
> > > >
> > > > RESTORE DATABASE
> > > > (FROM ...)
> > > > WITH NORECOVERY
> > > >
> > > > --this one for every full log you want to roll in:
> > > > RESTORE LOG
> > > > (FROM ...)
> > > > WITH NORECOVERY
> > > >
> > > > RESTORE LOG
> > > > (FROM ...)
> > > > WITH RECOVERY, STOPAT = 'Date/time'
> > > >
> > > > Also,
> > > >
> > > > check out the RESTORE topic in Books Online.
> > > >
> > > > I hope this is helpful.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > medusa wrote:
> > > > > I have a customer who's cart has been deleting orders incorrectly. I
> > > > > backed up and restored the database from the remote server to my local.
> > > > > Would like to restore to point in time before the delete operation.
> > > > > >From various sources this is the script I'm using:
> > > > >
> > > > > BACKUP LOG plebesummercom
> > > > > TO disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > > > > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
> > > > > WITH NORECOVERY, No_truncate
> > > > > Go
> > > > > RESTORE DATABASE plebesummercom
> > > > > FROM disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > > > > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\dbbu080106\8_1_2006_5_30_42_PM.bak'
> > > > > WITH NORECOVERY;
> > > > > GO
> > > > >
> > > > > RESTORE LOG [plebesummercom]
> > > > > FROM DISK = N'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > > > > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
> > > > >
> > > > > WITH FILE = 1, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10, STOPAT = N'07/16/2006
> > > > > 11:13:04'
> > > > > GO
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok, no errrors are thrown, but when I select from a table, I'm still
> > > > > finding orders with dates past July 16. Am I trying to do something not
> > > > > allowed? Both the database bu and the log bu contain transactions and
> > > > > data through August 2nd. Can someone point me in the right direction?|||Thanks a lot for you help.
SGCSNA wrote:
> STOPAT only works with Transaction Log Backups, so you would need a
> full backup from sometime before the time you want on July 16th and the
> subsequent log backups through the time you want on 7/16.
> medusa wrote:
> > The full backup goes through Aug 2. I want to stop at July 16.
> >
> > SGCSNA wrote:
> > > Are you restoring from a full backup that falls *before* your STOPAT
> > > date and all of the subsequent logs, up to the one that contains the
> > > STOPAT date?
> > > medusa wrote:
> > > > Well, that was the latest round of code. The n is put in there if you
> > > > tell management studio to script the action. The backup log is in there
> > > > because if it's not an error is thrown about not backing up the log
> > > > tail. Here, this doesn't work either--contains transactions through Aug
> > > > 2:
> > > >
> > > > BACKUP LOG plebesummercom
> > > > TO disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > > > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
> > > > WITH NORECOVERY, No_truncate
> > > > Go
> > > > RESTORE DATABASE plebesummercom
> > > > FROM disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > > > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\dbbu080106\8_1_2006_5_30_42_PM.bak'
> > > > WITH NORECOVERY;
> > > > GO
> > > >
> > > > RESTORE LOG [plebesummercom]
> > > > FROM DISK ='C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > > > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
> > > >
> > > > WITH FILE = 1, STOPAT = '07/16/2006 11:13:04'
> > > > GO
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > SGCSNA wrote:
> > > > > Why are you using the NOUNLOAD option when recovering from a file?
> > > > >
> > > > > Also,
> > > > > What is the "N" right before the date/time in your STOPAT ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Your first statement here says to backup log? I think you would want:
> > > > >
> > > > > RESTORE DATABASE
> > > > > (FROM ...)
> > > > > WITH NORECOVERY
> > > > >
> > > > > --this one for every full log you want to roll in:
> > > > > RESTORE LOG
> > > > > (FROM ...)
> > > > > WITH NORECOVERY
> > > > >
> > > > > RESTORE LOG
> > > > > (FROM ...)
> > > > > WITH RECOVERY, STOPAT = 'Date/time'
> > > > >
> > > > > Also,
> > > > >
> > > > > check out the RESTORE topic in Books Online.
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope this is helpful.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > medusa wrote:
> > > > > > I have a customer who's cart has been deleting orders incorrectly. I
> > > > > > backed up and restored the database from the remote server to my local.
> > > > > > Would like to restore to point in time before the delete operation.
> > > > > > >From various sources this is the script I'm using:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BACKUP LOG plebesummercom
> > > > > > TO disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > > > > > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
> > > > > > WITH NORECOVERY, No_truncate
> > > > > > Go
> > > > > > RESTORE DATABASE plebesummercom
> > > > > > FROM disk= 'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > > > > > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\dbbu080106\8_1_2006_5_30_42_PM.bak'
> > > > > > WITH NORECOVERY;
> > > > > > GO
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RESTORE LOG [plebesummercom]
> > > > > > FROM DISK = N'C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My
> > > > > > Documents\StephsProgramming\Plebesummer\EDTWebsite\butrans\translog.bak'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > WITH FILE = 1, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10, STOPAT = N'07/16/2006
> > > > > > 11:13:04'
> > > > > > GO
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ok, no errrors are thrown, but when I select from a table, I'm still
> > > > > > finding orders with dates past July 16. Am I trying to do something not
> > > > > > allowed? Both the database bu and the log bu contain transactions and
> > > > > > data through August 2nd. Can someone point me in the right direction?
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Newbie ? -- Does 'master' transaction log need to be backed up?
Hope someone can help answer this question for this newbie.
We are running SQL Server 2000 SP3a on Windows Server 2003, all updates current.
We have been running smoothly for some time now with two user databases. The maintenance plans work well for them. The maintenance plans for the system databases, however, have been giving me fits. Occasionally, one or more steps will fail and there is
no information in any log with which to begin an investigation. The Books Online offer no clue, either.
Here's what I need to know:
Most maintenance plans consist of 1 or more options: Optimizations, Integrity Checks, Database Backup, Transaction Log Backup. I have all 4 options set up for my user databases.
For the system databases (master, model, and msdb), the Transaction Log Backup continues to fail for the 'master' database with this error:
Backup can not be performed on this database. This sub task is ignored
The Properties Tab of the 'master' database shows that the Transaction Log file is:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\data\mastlog.ldf
Is there a problem with the database?
Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
Robert
By the way, 'master' is set to FULL recovery
Robert
|||Hi,
You canot perform a Trasaction log backup for MASTER database even though
recovery model is "FULL". Only database backup is possible. Why do you need
to backup the trasnaction log of MASTER database, because it is not advised
to have user tables / transaction tables in system databases.
Thanks
Hari
MCDBA
"Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message
news:uEutur8TEHA.1356@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> By the way, 'master' is set to FULL recovery
> Robert
>
|||Hari,
Thanks for the information.
We don't use the system databases for user data at all! I merely need to
understand what is involved in a standard daily system maintenance process.
That being said, is it okay to just have the Optimizations, Integrity
Checks, and Database Backup options for those three databases (master, model
and msdb) and forget about the Transaction Log backup for each?
Thanks!
Robert
"Hari Prasad" <hari_prasad_k@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ObCeux8TEHA.4048@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> You canot perform a Trasaction log backup for MASTER database even though
> recovery model is "FULL". Only database backup is possible. Why do you
need
> to backup the trasnaction log of MASTER database, because it is not
advised
> to have user tables / transaction tables in system databases.
> Thanks
> Hari
> MCDBA
> "Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message
> news:uEutur8TEHA.1356@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
|||Hi,
Since you are not adding any trasnactions to System database, you can ignore
the transaction log backup
for system databases.
Thanks
Hari
MCDBA
"Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message
news:#S$Kw28TEHA.3988@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hari,
> Thanks for the information.
> We don't use the system databases for user data at all! I merely need to
> understand what is involved in a standard daily system maintenance
process.
> That being said, is it okay to just have the Optimizations, Integrity
> Checks, and Database Backup options for those three databases (master,
model[vbcol=seagreen]
> and msdb) and forget about the Transaction Log backup for each?
> Thanks!
> Robert
> "Hari Prasad" <hari_prasad_k@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ObCeux8TEHA.4048@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
though
> need
> advised
>
|||Thanks, Hari.
I will only backup the Transaction Logs for my user databases, then.
Robert
|||Be aware that the backup history is in the msdb database. Because of this, I also do log backup for msdb. For
some strange reason, MS decided to set msdb to simple recovery mode when agent starts, but I just fix that by
setting msdb to full in an auto-start agent job.
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message news:%23sbmuX9TEHA.3140@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Thanks, Hari.
> I will only backup the Transaction Logs for my user databases, then.
> Robert
>
We are running SQL Server 2000 SP3a on Windows Server 2003, all updates current.
We have been running smoothly for some time now with two user databases. The maintenance plans work well for them. The maintenance plans for the system databases, however, have been giving me fits. Occasionally, one or more steps will fail and there is
no information in any log with which to begin an investigation. The Books Online offer no clue, either.
Here's what I need to know:
Most maintenance plans consist of 1 or more options: Optimizations, Integrity Checks, Database Backup, Transaction Log Backup. I have all 4 options set up for my user databases.
For the system databases (master, model, and msdb), the Transaction Log Backup continues to fail for the 'master' database with this error:
Backup can not be performed on this database. This sub task is ignored
The Properties Tab of the 'master' database shows that the Transaction Log file is:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\data\mastlog.ldf
Is there a problem with the database?
Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
Robert
By the way, 'master' is set to FULL recovery
Robert
|||Hi,
You canot perform a Trasaction log backup for MASTER database even though
recovery model is "FULL". Only database backup is possible. Why do you need
to backup the trasnaction log of MASTER database, because it is not advised
to have user tables / transaction tables in system databases.
Thanks
Hari
MCDBA
"Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message
news:uEutur8TEHA.1356@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> By the way, 'master' is set to FULL recovery
> Robert
>
|||Hari,
Thanks for the information.
We don't use the system databases for user data at all! I merely need to
understand what is involved in a standard daily system maintenance process.
That being said, is it okay to just have the Optimizations, Integrity
Checks, and Database Backup options for those three databases (master, model
and msdb) and forget about the Transaction Log backup for each?
Thanks!
Robert
"Hari Prasad" <hari_prasad_k@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ObCeux8TEHA.4048@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> You canot perform a Trasaction log backup for MASTER database even though
> recovery model is "FULL". Only database backup is possible. Why do you
need
> to backup the trasnaction log of MASTER database, because it is not
advised
> to have user tables / transaction tables in system databases.
> Thanks
> Hari
> MCDBA
> "Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message
> news:uEutur8TEHA.1356@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
|||Hi,
Since you are not adding any trasnactions to System database, you can ignore
the transaction log backup
for system databases.
Thanks
Hari
MCDBA
"Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message
news:#S$Kw28TEHA.3988@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hari,
> Thanks for the information.
> We don't use the system databases for user data at all! I merely need to
> understand what is involved in a standard daily system maintenance
process.
> That being said, is it okay to just have the Optimizations, Integrity
> Checks, and Database Backup options for those three databases (master,
model[vbcol=seagreen]
> and msdb) and forget about the Transaction Log backup for each?
> Thanks!
> Robert
> "Hari Prasad" <hari_prasad_k@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ObCeux8TEHA.4048@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
though
> need
> advised
>
|||Thanks, Hari.
I will only backup the Transaction Logs for my user databases, then.
Robert
|||Be aware that the backup history is in the msdb database. Because of this, I also do log backup for msdb. For
some strange reason, MS decided to set msdb to simple recovery mode when agent starts, but I just fix that by
setting msdb to full in an auto-start agent job.
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message news:%23sbmuX9TEHA.3140@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Thanks, Hari.
> I will only backup the Transaction Logs for my user databases, then.
> Robert
>
Newbie ? -- Does 'master' transaction log need to be backed up?
Hope someone can help answer this question for this newbie
We are running SQL Server 2000 SP3a on Windows Server 2003, all updates current
We have been running smoothly for some time now with two user databases. The maintenance plans work well for them. The maintenance plans for the system databases, however, have been giving me fits. Occasionally, one or more steps will fail and there is no information in any log with which to begin an investigation. The Books Online offer no clue, either
Here's what I need to know
Most maintenance plans consist of 1 or more options: Optimizations, Integrity Checks, Database Backup, Transaction Log Backup. I have all 4 options set up for my user databases
For the system databases (master, model, and msdb), the Transaction Log Backup continues to fail for the 'master' database with this error:
Backup can not be performed on this database. This sub task is ignore
The Properties Tab of the 'master' database shows that the Transaction Log file is
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\data\mastlog.ld
Is there a problem with the database
Any assistance is greatly appreciated
RobertBy the way, 'master' is set to FULL recovery
Robert|||Hi,
You canot perform a Trasaction log backup for MASTER database even though
recovery model is "FULL". Only database backup is possible. Why do you need
to backup the trasnaction log of MASTER database, because it is not advised
to have user tables / transaction tables in system databases.
Thanks
Hari
MCDBA
"Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message
news:uEutur8TEHA.1356@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> By the way, 'master' is set to FULL recovery
> Robert
>|||Hari,
Thanks for the information.
We don't use the system databases for user data at all! I merely need to
understand what is involved in a standard daily system maintenance process.
That being said, is it okay to just have the Optimizations, Integrity
Checks, and Database Backup options for those three databases (master, model
and msdb) and forget about the Transaction Log backup for each?
Thanks!
Robert
"Hari Prasad" <hari_prasad_k@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ObCeux8TEHA.4048@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> You canot perform a Trasaction log backup for MASTER database even though
> recovery model is "FULL". Only database backup is possible. Why do you
need
> to backup the trasnaction log of MASTER database, because it is not
advised
> to have user tables / transaction tables in system databases.
> Thanks
> Hari
> MCDBA
> "Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message
> news:uEutur8TEHA.1356@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > By the way, 'master' is set to FULL recovery
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
>|||Hi,
Since you are not adding any trasnactions to System database, you can ignore
the transaction log backup
for system databases.
Thanks
Hari
MCDBA
"Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message
news:#S$Kw28TEHA.3988@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hari,
> Thanks for the information.
> We don't use the system databases for user data at all! I merely need to
> understand what is involved in a standard daily system maintenance
process.
> That being said, is it okay to just have the Optimizations, Integrity
> Checks, and Database Backup options for those three databases (master,
model
> and msdb) and forget about the Transaction Log backup for each?
> Thanks!
> Robert
> "Hari Prasad" <hari_prasad_k@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ObCeux8TEHA.4048@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Hi,
> >
> > You canot perform a Trasaction log backup for MASTER database even
though
> > recovery model is "FULL". Only database backup is possible. Why do you
> need
> > to backup the trasnaction log of MASTER database, because it is not
> advised
> > to have user tables / transaction tables in system databases.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Hari
> > MCDBA
> >
> > "Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message
> > news:uEutur8TEHA.1356@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > By the way, 'master' is set to FULL recovery
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>|||Thanks, Hari.
I will only backup the Transaction Logs for my user databases, then.
Robert|||Be aware that the backup history is in the msdb database. Because of this, I also do log backup for msdb. For
some strange reason, MS decided to set msdb to simple recovery mode when agent starts, but I just fix that by
setting msdb to full in an auto-start agent job.
--
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message news:%23sbmuX9TEHA.3140@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Thanks, Hari.
> I will only backup the Transaction Logs for my user databases, then.
> Robert
>
We are running SQL Server 2000 SP3a on Windows Server 2003, all updates current
We have been running smoothly for some time now with two user databases. The maintenance plans work well for them. The maintenance plans for the system databases, however, have been giving me fits. Occasionally, one or more steps will fail and there is no information in any log with which to begin an investigation. The Books Online offer no clue, either
Here's what I need to know
Most maintenance plans consist of 1 or more options: Optimizations, Integrity Checks, Database Backup, Transaction Log Backup. I have all 4 options set up for my user databases
For the system databases (master, model, and msdb), the Transaction Log Backup continues to fail for the 'master' database with this error:
Backup can not be performed on this database. This sub task is ignore
The Properties Tab of the 'master' database shows that the Transaction Log file is
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\data\mastlog.ld
Is there a problem with the database
Any assistance is greatly appreciated
RobertBy the way, 'master' is set to FULL recovery
Robert|||Hi,
You canot perform a Trasaction log backup for MASTER database even though
recovery model is "FULL". Only database backup is possible. Why do you need
to backup the trasnaction log of MASTER database, because it is not advised
to have user tables / transaction tables in system databases.
Thanks
Hari
MCDBA
"Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message
news:uEutur8TEHA.1356@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> By the way, 'master' is set to FULL recovery
> Robert
>|||Hari,
Thanks for the information.
We don't use the system databases for user data at all! I merely need to
understand what is involved in a standard daily system maintenance process.
That being said, is it okay to just have the Optimizations, Integrity
Checks, and Database Backup options for those three databases (master, model
and msdb) and forget about the Transaction Log backup for each?
Thanks!
Robert
"Hari Prasad" <hari_prasad_k@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ObCeux8TEHA.4048@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> You canot perform a Trasaction log backup for MASTER database even though
> recovery model is "FULL". Only database backup is possible. Why do you
need
> to backup the trasnaction log of MASTER database, because it is not
advised
> to have user tables / transaction tables in system databases.
> Thanks
> Hari
> MCDBA
> "Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message
> news:uEutur8TEHA.1356@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > By the way, 'master' is set to FULL recovery
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
>|||Hi,
Since you are not adding any trasnactions to System database, you can ignore
the transaction log backup
for system databases.
Thanks
Hari
MCDBA
"Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message
news:#S$Kw28TEHA.3988@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hari,
> Thanks for the information.
> We don't use the system databases for user data at all! I merely need to
> understand what is involved in a standard daily system maintenance
process.
> That being said, is it okay to just have the Optimizations, Integrity
> Checks, and Database Backup options for those three databases (master,
model
> and msdb) and forget about the Transaction Log backup for each?
> Thanks!
> Robert
> "Hari Prasad" <hari_prasad_k@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ObCeux8TEHA.4048@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Hi,
> >
> > You canot perform a Trasaction log backup for MASTER database even
though
> > recovery model is "FULL". Only database backup is possible. Why do you
> need
> > to backup the trasnaction log of MASTER database, because it is not
> advised
> > to have user tables / transaction tables in system databases.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Hari
> > MCDBA
> >
> > "Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message
> > news:uEutur8TEHA.1356@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > By the way, 'master' is set to FULL recovery
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>|||Thanks, Hari.
I will only backup the Transaction Logs for my user databases, then.
Robert|||Be aware that the backup history is in the msdb database. Because of this, I also do log backup for msdb. For
some strange reason, MS decided to set msdb to simple recovery mode when agent starts, but I just fix that by
setting msdb to full in an auto-start agent job.
--
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message news:%23sbmuX9TEHA.3140@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Thanks, Hari.
> I will only backup the Transaction Logs for my user databases, then.
> Robert
>
Newbie ? -- Does 'master' transaction log need to be backed up?
Hope someone can help answer this question for this newbie.
We are running SQL Server 2000 SP3a on Windows Server 2003, all updates curr
ent.
We have been running smoothly for some time now with two user databases. Th
e maintenance plans work well for them. The maintenance plans for the syste
m databases, however, have been giving me fits. Occasionally, one or more s
teps will fail and there is
no information in any log with which to begin an investigation. The Books O
nline offer no clue, either.
Here's what I need to know:
Most maintenance plans consist of 1 or more options: Optimizations, Integri
ty Checks, Database Backup, Transaction Log Backup. I have all 4 options se
t up for my user databases.
For the system databases (master, model, and msdb), the Transaction Log Back
up continues to fail for the 'master' database with this error:
Backup can not be performed on this database. This sub task is ignored
The Properties Tab of the 'master' database shows that the Transaction Log f
ile is:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\data\mastlog.ldf
Is there a problem with the database?
Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
RobertBy the way, 'master' is set to FULL recovery
Robert|||Hi,
You canot perform a Trasaction log backup for MASTER database even though
recovery model is "FULL". Only database backup is possible. Why do you need
to backup the trasnaction log of MASTER database, because it is not advised
to have user tables / transaction tables in system databases.
Thanks
Hari
MCDBA
"Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message
news:uEutur8TEHA.1356@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> By the way, 'master' is set to FULL recovery
> Robert
>|||Hari,
Thanks for the information.
We don't use the system databases for user data at all! I merely need to
understand what is involved in a standard daily system maintenance process.
That being said, is it okay to just have the Optimizations, Integrity
Checks, and Database Backup options for those three databases (master, model
and msdb) and forget about the Transaction Log backup for each?
Thanks!
Robert
"Hari Prasad" <hari_prasad_k@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ObCeux8TEHA.4048@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> You canot perform a Trasaction log backup for MASTER database even though
> recovery model is "FULL". Only database backup is possible. Why do you
need
> to backup the trasnaction log of MASTER database, because it is not
advised
> to have user tables / transaction tables in system databases.
> Thanks
> Hari
> MCDBA
> "Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message
> news:uEutur8TEHA.1356@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>|||Hi,
Since you are not adding any trasnactions to System database, you can ignore
the transaction log backup
for system databases.
Thanks
Hari
MCDBA
"Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message
news:#S$Kw28TEHA.3988@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hari,
> Thanks for the information.
> We don't use the system databases for user data at all! I merely need to
> understand what is involved in a standard daily system maintenance
process.
> That being said, is it okay to just have the Optimizations, Integrity
> Checks, and Database Backup options for those three databases (master,
model
> and msdb) and forget about the Transaction Log backup for each?
> Thanks!
> Robert
> "Hari Prasad" <hari_prasad_k@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ObCeux8TEHA.4048@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
though[vbcol=seagreen]
> need
> advised
>|||Thanks, Hari.
I will only backup the Transaction Logs for my user databases, then.
Robert|||Be aware that the backup history is in the msdb database. Because of this, I
also do log backup for msdb. For
some strange reason, MS decided to set msdb to simple recovery mode when age
nt starts, but I just fix that by
setting msdb to full in an auto-start agent job.
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message news:%23sbmuX9TEHA.3140@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl.
.
> Thanks, Hari.
> I will only backup the Transaction Logs for my user databases, then.
> Robert
>
We are running SQL Server 2000 SP3a on Windows Server 2003, all updates curr
ent.
We have been running smoothly for some time now with two user databases. Th
e maintenance plans work well for them. The maintenance plans for the syste
m databases, however, have been giving me fits. Occasionally, one or more s
teps will fail and there is
no information in any log with which to begin an investigation. The Books O
nline offer no clue, either.
Here's what I need to know:
Most maintenance plans consist of 1 or more options: Optimizations, Integri
ty Checks, Database Backup, Transaction Log Backup. I have all 4 options se
t up for my user databases.
For the system databases (master, model, and msdb), the Transaction Log Back
up continues to fail for the 'master' database with this error:
Backup can not be performed on this database. This sub task is ignored
The Properties Tab of the 'master' database shows that the Transaction Log f
ile is:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\data\mastlog.ldf
Is there a problem with the database?
Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
RobertBy the way, 'master' is set to FULL recovery
Robert|||Hi,
You canot perform a Trasaction log backup for MASTER database even though
recovery model is "FULL". Only database backup is possible. Why do you need
to backup the trasnaction log of MASTER database, because it is not advised
to have user tables / transaction tables in system databases.
Thanks
Hari
MCDBA
"Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message
news:uEutur8TEHA.1356@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> By the way, 'master' is set to FULL recovery
> Robert
>|||Hari,
Thanks for the information.
We don't use the system databases for user data at all! I merely need to
understand what is involved in a standard daily system maintenance process.
That being said, is it okay to just have the Optimizations, Integrity
Checks, and Database Backup options for those three databases (master, model
and msdb) and forget about the Transaction Log backup for each?
Thanks!
Robert
"Hari Prasad" <hari_prasad_k@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ObCeux8TEHA.4048@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> You canot perform a Trasaction log backup for MASTER database even though
> recovery model is "FULL". Only database backup is possible. Why do you
need
> to backup the trasnaction log of MASTER database, because it is not
advised
> to have user tables / transaction tables in system databases.
> Thanks
> Hari
> MCDBA
> "Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message
> news:uEutur8TEHA.1356@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>|||Hi,
Since you are not adding any trasnactions to System database, you can ignore
the transaction log backup
for system databases.
Thanks
Hari
MCDBA
"Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message
news:#S$Kw28TEHA.3988@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hari,
> Thanks for the information.
> We don't use the system databases for user data at all! I merely need to
> understand what is involved in a standard daily system maintenance
process.
> That being said, is it okay to just have the Optimizations, Integrity
> Checks, and Database Backup options for those three databases (master,
model
> and msdb) and forget about the Transaction Log backup for each?
> Thanks!
> Robert
> "Hari Prasad" <hari_prasad_k@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ObCeux8TEHA.4048@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
though[vbcol=seagreen]
> need
> advised
>|||Thanks, Hari.
I will only backup the Transaction Logs for my user databases, then.
Robert|||Be aware that the backup history is in the msdb database. Because of this, I
also do log backup for msdb. For
some strange reason, MS decided to set msdb to simple recovery mode when age
nt starts, but I just fix that by
setting msdb to full in an auto-start agent job.
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"Robert" <rclay@.kerrdrug.com> wrote in message news:%23sbmuX9TEHA.3140@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl.
.
> Thanks, Hari.
> I will only backup the Transaction Logs for my user databases, then.
> Robert
>
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