Newbie problem: Saving a view from a linked server wont work

Hi. I've created a linked server to Oracle 8i. I want to save a view as
follows:

SELECT *
FROM ORACLE8I..SCOTT.EMP EMP_1

From SQL Query Analyser, this returns a nice set or records. Running this
from the view designer also returns a nice result. However, if I try to to
save the view, I get the following error message:

ODBC error: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server] The operation
could not be performed because the OLE DB provider 'MSDAORA' was unable to
begin a distributed transaction.

[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]OLE DB error trace [OLE/DB
Provider 'MSDAORA' ITransactionJoiJoin Transaction returned 0x8004d01b].

Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?Hi

Have you checked
http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...kb;EN-US;280106

John
<arch> wrote in message news:417a42df$1@.funnel.arach.net.au...
> Hi. I've created a linked server to Oracle 8i. I want to save a view as
> follows:
> SELECT *
> FROM ORACLE8I..SCOTT.EMP EMP_1
> From SQL Query Analyser, this returns a nice set or records. Running this
> from the view designer also returns a nice result. However, if I try to
to
> save the view, I get the following error message:
> ODBC error: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server] The operation
> could not be performed because the OLE DB provider 'MSDAORA' was unable to
> begin a distributedtransaction.
> [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]OLE DB error trace [OLE/DB
> Provider 'MSDAORA' ITransactionJoiJoin Transaction returned 0x8004d01b].
>
> Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?|||Hi

Have you checked
http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...kb;EN-US;280106

John
<arch> wrote in message news:417a42df$1@.funnel.arach.net.au...
> Hi. I've created a linked server to Oracle 8i. I want to save a view as
> follows:
> SELECT *
> FROM ORACLE8I..SCOTT.EMP EMP_1
> From SQL Query Analyser, this returns a nice set or records. Running this
> from the view designer also returns a nice result. However, if I try to
to
> save the view, I get the following error message:
> ODBC error: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server] The operation
> could not be performed because the OLE DB provider 'MSDAORA' was unable to
> begin a distributedtransaction.
> [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]OLE DB error trace [OLE/DB
> Provider 'MSDAORA' ITransactionJoiJoin Transaction returned 0x8004d01b].
>
> Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?|||None of the stuff in that article seems to help. Same error message occurs.

"John Bell" <jbellnewsposts@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:417a46c7$0$12657$afc38c87@.news.easynet.co.uk. ..
> Hi
> Have you checked
> http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...kb;EN-US;280106
> John
> <arch> wrote in message news:417a42df$1@.funnel.arach.net.au...
>> Hi. I've created a linked server to Oracle 8i. I want to save a view as
>> follows:
>>
>> SELECT *
>> FROM ORACLE8I..SCOTT.EMP EMP_1
>>
>> From SQL Query Analyser, this returns a nice set or records. Running
>> this
>> from the view designer also returns a nice result. However, if I try to
> to
>> save the view, I get the following error message:
>>
>> ODBC error: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server] The operation
>> could not be performed because the OLE DB provider 'MSDAORA' was unable
>> to
>> begin a distributedtransaction.
>>
>> [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]OLE DB error trace [OLE/DB
>> Provider 'MSDAORA' ITransactionJoiJoin Transaction returned 0x8004d01b].
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
>>
>>|||Hi

This one seems to imply MSDTC is not running:
http://tinyurl.com/4wghd

John

<arch> wrote in message news:417a85ec@.funnel.arach.net.au...
> None of the stuff in that article seems to help. Same error message
occurs.
>
> "John Bell" <jbellnewsposts@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:417a46c7$0$12657$afc38c87@.news.easynet.co.uk. ..
> > Hi
> > Have you checked
> > http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...kb;EN-US;280106
> > John
> > <arch> wrote in message news:417a42df$1@.funnel.arach.net.au...
> >> Hi. I've created a linked server to Oracle 8i. I want to save a view
as
> >> follows:
> >>
> >> SELECT *
> >> FROM ORACLE8I..SCOTT.EMP EMP_1
> >>
> >> From SQL Query Analyser, this returns a nice set or records. Running
> >> this
> >> from the view designer also returns a nice result. However, if I try
to
> > to
> >> save the view, I get the following error message:
> >>
> >> ODBC error: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server] The
operation
> >> could not be performed because the OLE DB provider 'MSDAORA' was unable
> >> to
> >> begin a distributedtransaction.
> >>
> >> [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]OLE DB error trace
[OLE/DB
> >> Provider 'MSDAORA' ITransactionJoiJoin Transaction returned
0x8004d01b].
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
> >>
> >>|||(arch) writes:
> Hi. I've created a linked server to Oracle 8i. I want to save a view as
> follows:
> SELECT *
> FROM ORACLE8I..SCOTT.EMP EMP_1
> From SQL Query Analyser, this returns a nice set or records. Running
> this from the view designer also returns a nice result. However, if I
> try to to save the view, I get the following error message:
> ODBC error: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server] The operation
> could not be performed because the OLE DB provider 'MSDAORA' was unable to
> begin a distributed transaction.
> [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]OLE DB error trace [OLE/DB
> Provider 'MSDAORA' ITransactionJoiJoin Transaction returned 0x8004d01b].

I assume that with "view designer" you mean what's in Enterprise Manager.

I used the Profiler, to see what Enterprise Manager passes to SQL Server,
and I found that it starts a transaction before it creates a view, no matter
if the view refers to local tables only or remote tables as well.

Apparently you have not set things so you can run distributed transactions
against your Oracle box. I have no expierence with Oracle servers, so I
cannot help there. But checking that MSDTC is running on the local SQL
Server machine as John suggested is a simple thing.

But if you don't need distrubuted transactions against your Oracle server,
there is a very simple workaround: create the view from Query Analyzer
instead.

--
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esquel@.sommarskog.se

Books Online for SQL Server SP3 at
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/techin.../2000/books.asp|||Thanks John and Erland. That seems to have solved it. DTC is certainly
running. Simply avoiding the use of the View Designer in Enterprise Manager
seems to prevent the error from occurring. Damn, I wish I'd thought of
that!

"Erland Sommarskog" <esquel@.sommarskog.se> wrote in message
news:Xns958C2C52D211Yazorman@.127.0.0.1...
> (arch) writes:
>> Hi. I've created a linked server to Oracle 8i. I want to save a view as
>> follows:
>>
>> SELECT *
>> FROM ORACLE8I..SCOTT.EMP EMP_1
>>
>> From SQL Query Analyser, this returns a nice set or records. Running
>> this from the view designer also returns a nice result. However, if I
>> try to to save the view, I get the following error message:
>>
>> ODBC error: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server] The operation
>> could not be performed because the OLE DB provider 'MSDAORA' was unable
>> to
>> begin a distributed transaction.
>>
>> [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]OLE DB error trace [OLE/DB
>> Provider 'MSDAORA' ITransactionJoiJoin Transaction returned 0x8004d01b].
> I assume that with "view designer" you mean what's in Enterprise Manager.
> I used the Profiler, to see what Enterprise Manager passes to SQL Server,
> and I found that it starts a transaction before it creates a view, no
> matter
> if the view refers to local tables only or remote tables as well.
> Apparently you have not set things so you can run distributed transactions
> against your Oracle box. I have no expierence with Oracle servers, so I
> cannot help there. But checking that MSDTC is running on the local SQL
> Server machine as John suggested is a simple thing.
> But if you don't need distrubuted transactions against your Oracle server,
> there is a very simple workaround: create the view from Query Analyzer
> instead.
>
> --
> Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esquel@.sommarskog.se
> Books Online for SQL Server SP3 at
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/techin.../2000/books.asp|||Linked server connections only allow select insert update and delete... and
( unless you do tricks) you may not change the DDL on the Linked server...

--
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Mariner, Charlotte, NC
www.mariner-usa.com
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<arch> wrote in message news:417a42df$1@.funnel.arach.net.au...
> Hi. I've created a linked server to Oracle 8i. I want to save a view as
> follows:
> SELECT *
> FROM ORACLE8I..SCOTT.EMP EMP_1
> From SQL Query Analyser, this returns a nice set or records. Running this
> from the view designer also returns a nice result. However, if I try to
to
> save the view, I get the following error message:
> ODBC error: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server] The operation
> could not be performed because the OLE DB provider 'MSDAORA' was unable to
> begin a distributed transaction.
> [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]OLE DB error trace [OLE/DB
> Provider 'MSDAORA' ITransactionJoiJoin Transaction returned 0x8004d01b].
>
> Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?